How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

What is an appropriate response to someone saying "merci" in French?

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Sain (a barber)

What should I do to stop being angered easily?

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Is it possible to become homeless after being released from jail or prison in the United States?

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

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He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

What have I done wrong? How can I start over?

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

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ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

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ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

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I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

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Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

NOW…

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

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— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

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then who is there to know what happens without?

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Kabir (a weaver)

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

CONCLUSION:

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Now here in this verse

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I am like a fish out of water,

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.